tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-519424503777525095.post5572070600104929454..comments2023-05-26T13:53:35.562+01:00Comments on energyarks blog: Some problems with the Transition Towns approachUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-519424503777525095.post-90732374051365363682010-06-30T09:16:58.888+01:002010-06-30T09:16:58.888+01:00Reply to Anon (continued)....
More about this '...Reply to Anon (continued)....<br />More about this 'paranoid' approach, an analogy (sadly based on unwilled actual experience). Move your home to a city, put up a big sign saying "Friendly new community centre here", and leave your doors open all day and night. Very soon you will have one or more people in your home/"community" who are quite enthusiastic to beat you to a pulp and take all your money and other useful things. Your life will soon be in desperate chaos.<br /><br />If there were a public EnergyArk, or a celebrated "successful" transition 'community' (fat chance!), an analogous disastrous outcome would happen in one or other way.Robin P Clarkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03395391589008969720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-519424503777525095.post-38183319210077939552010-06-30T08:32:03.775+01:002010-06-30T08:32:03.775+01:00Anonymous, I appreciate that perception. I strongl...Anonymous, I appreciate that perception. I strongly agree with the concept of providing solutions rather than just bashing non-solutions. The Energy Ark principles were summed up in the post here titled "What's an Energy Ark?". The post "Getting people onboard" indicates some more of the positive plan. <br /><br />But what you have to understand is that some things cannot work by website, where any number of people, including some very unfriendly ones, can look at what we are doing, without us even knowing they are. Would you put all your personal affairs on an open website? An essential principle of an Energy Ark is that selfish, uncooperative, sabotageing people do not know where we are or quite what we're doing. That isn't paranoia, it's the same sanity being applied by the zillions of others who prefer their affairs aren't conducted in a global goldfish bowl!<br /><br />I also stated that I myself am ill (lifelong chronic disabled) and hence impoverished and have to concentrate on my own health and wealth for the meantime. But you're still welcome to get in contact offline with me non-anon to discuss (and do things) further. Cheers.Robin P Clarkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03395391589008969720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-519424503777525095.post-47704895376500979462010-06-30T02:19:08.915+01:002010-06-30T02:19:08.915+01:00Robin, your movement seems to be defined only by i...Robin, your movement seems to be defined only by it's declaration that "Transition Towns" is wrong. When are you going to start writing clearly, positively and readably (succinctly?!) about the solutions "Energy Ark" proposes? It's easy to tear down what other people are doing, but until you've created something yourself (beyond a website) is there really any reason to listen to you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-519424503777525095.post-54709250681410970582009-07-12T15:57:14.256+01:002009-07-12T15:57:14.256+01:00Alan--Thanks for that reference. Rather than repl...Alan--Thanks for that reference. Rather than replying to it here I'll create a new post by way of commentary on it.Robin P Clarkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03395391589008969720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-519424503777525095.post-11215048252873528622009-07-12T13:16:07.679+01:002009-07-12T13:16:07.679+01:00take a look:
http://www.oftwominds.com/blogmar09/...take a look:<br /><br />http://www.oftwominds.com/blogmar09/cities03-09.html<br /><br />Could Cities Be Safer Than Suburbs? (March 11, 2009)Alan2102https://www.blogger.com/profile/03077725184637352859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-519424503777525095.post-90769214516765529072009-07-07T00:09:38.567+01:002009-07-07T00:09:38.567+01:00Why more people aren't relocating? It needs m...Why more people aren't relocating? It needs money and time, and indentifying a place where one is not going to be unwelcome. Planning regs make life difficult in much of the uk. Two existing international relocation projects I know of are more-or-less based on the presumption that you will buy some propety in the area, which means you are going to end up with a peculiarly skewed community of only owning classes.<br /><br />Arks, rafts, how to fish. By the word Ark I was thinking of like Noah's Ark, which not merely survives drowning but also conserves all the requirements for continued life thereafter, in the form of those pairs of animals. Our own arks would need to include the skills of providing food (such as fishing) to be much good. Meanwhile there could also be value in "rafts" too as makeshift first bases from which to later join the community of a sustainable "ark".Robin P Clarkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03395391589008969720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-519424503777525095.post-72048712800302941002009-07-06T22:31:10.100+01:002009-07-06T22:31:10.100+01:00I'd agree with that. Relocation is a great ide...I'd agree with that. Relocation is a great idea and I don't know why more people aren't doing it. Nice little resilient community and you're set. In a 'Survivors' (original series, I'm sure you've seen it) style scenario, I agree that it seems likely that Totnes would be hit very hard and lots would probably go wrong far more quickly and far more terribly than anyone imagined. But at least it would have the seeds of resilience in it. <br /><br />With the community knowing each other that little bit more, cooperating that little bit more, they would be more acquainted and prepared to deal with the situations they would face. <br /><br />You have to start somewhere, and if you're trying to start a cultural meme it will not spread in isolation. It has to be near others to be taken up and to spread. <br /><br />The 'ark' approach will save you from a coming storm, but teaching others how to build rafts and boats and how to fish, or at the very least how to swim, will save many more people and resources.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com